It’s not like I think Frozen is a bastion of feminism myself, nor is it even the most feminist of recent Disney movies imo. At all. I actually agree that it’s pretty overrated, and the Frozen hype has gotten cringe-worthy at times.
So like, I could not care less if people don’t see any feminist value in the movie or if they hate the movie. That’s cool.
It’s more how it’s being handled, and how I feel a lot of the hate I see is less out of legitimate concern and more out of spite (the fact that the same problems are dismissed or even denied in other films/tv shows enforces this imo). There’s a lot more to it, but I don’t want to discuss is publicly.
And I am just too grumpy and tired to deal with that.
As intersectional feminists tho, that’s our job … Like yeah it’s tiring but it’s the whole thing where it’s more difficult living in erasure (which is what’s happening with frozen) than it is being an ally. Don’t mean to argue. But I just … we’d expect cis men trying to be allies to do if they saw sexism. So we should do the same for ppl of color.
That’s not what I’m saying at all though, and who said I was talking about the critique of lack of POC in the film? I didn’t mention that at all.
This part of the post is important-
the fact that the same problems are dismissed or even denied in other films/tv shows enforces this imo.
Because our job as feminists is not to only point out and discuss issues in media when it’s something we’re not interested in and we don’t like. Our job is to talk about it on the whole and face up to it EVEN WHEN it’s something we really like. And this is not what is happening in the animated film community.
Look at this post for example. How to Train Your Dragon had LITERALLY THE SAME PROBLEM with lack of POC representation that Frozen had and floundered more than Frozen on female representation, but this person turns a blind eye to it and acts like it’s a shame that Frozen did well and it did not, because Frozen is ‘problematic’. This is a commonality in animation fandom, and it’s actually really, really gross. How do people praise a cartoon show they watch that features every single woman with the same face and body type as ‘feminist’ and then dismiss Frozen completely for doing that with two characters that are sisters (which means they would have a higher chance of looking alike, even if yeah, they aren’t going to look that much alike)? Why do people do long-ass convoluted essays justifying Ghibli’s use of ‘same face’ as ‘okay’ and then condemn other companies for it? Why is Disney turning a Japanese man into an African-American in Big Hero 6 a problem, yet we refuse to discuss outright whitewashing characters in a Dreamworks film? It’s like those posts that act like DC is so gross and then herald Marvel as progressive. Even if DC is grosser, that doesn’t make Marvel good.
Using social justice and social justice buzzwords to condemn only the things you happen to dislike it gross, counterproductive, and does nothing to help anyone. Because hey, what if Disney does stop doing it? Then the other animation companies, tv shows, etc. that do it are going to keep doing it because you never called them on it. Because apparently it’s only not okay when you’re not a fan. That’s not feminism. That’s spite. And it damages the cause.